Post by xBlackPearlx on Feb 23, 2009 9:23:34 GMT -8
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First Message
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Seriously, just respond to my question, I am defending myself and appealing my ban. My post below clearly makes sense that i should not have been banned, because i didnt make any direct contact with Kleaneasy. The post at the bottom was made because I got banned and in this post I am making direct contact with her and I even posted her name. So you guys just keep deleting and banning, but its not getting very far. I do deserve to be unbanned, I want you to bring this up with other admins and i want you to show them this. They should end up agreing with me because there was no direct contact made. I want you to review this message again. This is just not right. I will fight this with UBISOFT and this is not fair. I am only sticking up for what the majority of us believe in and you are just trying to shut us up everytime. I have a question for you, how come you dont want them to see what we are doing? Are you afraid to lose your job? I mean you guys are the reason this is even happening.
I have every right to defend this too. Heres how:
If you do abuse your admin rights once again, I will continue to fight this and I will make sure I win.
Have a nice day!
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His Reply
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My Second Message
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Hi ******,
This is xBlackPearlx and I want you to know I recieved your message but I did not have time to respond because I was at work. I did however begin typing my message on my iphone and by the time I could send it, I was already banned. I want you to know that I am not a a coder and that this is the first comupter I have physically put together. I do not support or distrbute hacks in any way, considering the fact that I own a multi-gaming clan. The image you saw on my photobucket was an image of a virus program, no biggy. I have never used it against anyone and it was downloaded off the internet. I have no skill in coding and I have supported ubisoft for a long time now. I have bought so many games from you guys since I have played splinter cell. I am planning on becomming a pilot in the USAF and I had thoughts towards purchasing hawxs, but I no longer have that idea. I am a long time customer and I dont want you guys to lose me because someone else's thoughts and actions towards me and other users.
You do seem like a good guy, someone who listens to people. I am sorry you felt as if was attacking you with this PM, but i sent the same message to the other moderators. My intentions are not to attack you but to recieve some support for myself and my friend and the other ubisoft forum users. I was only here to support my long time friend XeiaieX. The position Ms. kleaneasy put him in is not fair. We have been trying to get a hold of somebody who listens and your the only person who has responded. I really appreciate that and none of the other moderators had the same courage as you. The other moderators just keep banning and closing topics. When we do send a message to them, they don't respond, they just ban us right away. This is prolly like my 4th account. Do Kazzo and Ms. Kleaneasy just have a habit of banning and shutting down topics? They seem like they just cant handle the heat people are giving off, they cant absorb it and they just make people release more heat and energy everytime. This just keeps escalating because of the way things have been handled. I dont think they are fit for their job at all. I dont think it was right that I was banned, I really have no account on hacking, coding or anything related to that stuff. You will be the only person recieving this message this time and I really hope you can consider unbanning me. The majority of the users on these boards are complaining about not recieving support and Kazzo and Ms. Kleaneasy just keep trying to silence them. They tried to silence me and XeiaieX. XeiaieX even sent a message to Ms. Kleaneasy when she clearly said,
"If anyone has any genuine desire to discuss this properly please PT me, anyone creating any further threads will find themselves subject to warning or suspension for spamming."
She didn't respond, she just banned him. I mean thats not the way ubisoft is supposed to handle customers. If you look at XeiaieX previous posts before he was banned, you can clearly see he is not here to promote or exploit hacks or cheats but to help other forum users with issues some of the moderators can't solve. I hope you read the topics more and look into them so you can get a good summary of whats going on. Since you are the only person who has responded, I am going to get XeiaieX to contact you and hopefully you can speak to the both of us. I really appreciate your time into reading this and reading and responding to my first message.
Thank You!
xBlackPearlx - Daniel
You can also reach me at:
Xfire:xxblackpearlxx
MSN: xBlackPearlx@live.com
xBlackPearlx@noonesurvives.net
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His Reply
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Hello Black Pearl,
Thank you for your civil response. Now we can talk like men.
First of all, about the virus program, I wasn't accusing you of anything. I have a few of those programs myself that I like to experiment with. I was just saying, you might want to be careful putting that publicly on photobucket for all to see.
Second, you should know that I do not officially work for Ubisoft. I am a volunteer. A customer, just as you are.
Now, as you may or may not know, I am no fan of Ubisoft's support and actions. Myself, I pledged not to purchase a single Ubisoft product until a proper Rainbow Six is made. Since the release of Lockdown, I have held to that pledge. I have not put a penny of my money into Ubisoft for over 5 years. I feel your pain. I know that Ubisoft is ignoring us. I know that Ubisoft has turned into a game factory that is only interested in the profit rather than the consumer. I am a man of the people. My moderatorship has been extremely controversial among the staff because of my point of view. I do not censor opinions like some moderators on other forums may do. They see anything anti-ubisoft as trolling or flaming. I do not. I see it as an opinion. As long as that opinion is presented in a civil way, I see nothing wrong with it.
Now, with you two, I don't know why XeiaieX was originally banned. Apparently he had multiple accounts. As I said in my previous post, if you get banned on one account, technically you are banned totally from the forum under any and all accounts. What I saw the other night i was not pleased with. All I saw was spamming and insults and childishness. If you want to express your opinion, that is not the way to go about it.
Believe me, I know the point that you are trying to convey, and it is a very valid point. But you have to consider they way that you convey that message. If you spam and spam and post slander, then no one will take you seriously and the moderators will be forced to remove your opinion. The content that you two posted did in fact break the TOU which forces me to take action against you, even though I feel the very same pain that you guys are feeling. That's why I tried to get you to talk to me over MSN last night, because I really wanted you guys to hear my side of the story.
I have come to know many people in your same position. There have been many anti-ubisoft movements just like the one you started with your website. One of the most successful movement actually consisted of a large amount of people all filing complaints with the BBB in order to force Ubisoft into paying attention to them.
So with all of that said, I hope that you two will stop the spamming for at least the time being. That will help me work things out with my bosses. I cannot guarantee that you two will be unbanned. But if we talk more and come to an agreement, it will greatly improve your odds that I can work something out with kleaneasy and kazzoo. I have added you to MSN messenger. I look forward to talking with you two more and I hope that we can come to a civil agreement that can benefit us all. Thanks,
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My Reply
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Hi ******,
Once again, I really appreciate your quick responses and I do look forward to talking to you on msn. I hope you also decide to join the discussion on our website. If you have to ban me, I understand. You have to do what you have to do. I'm glad you to know that your not the only one who is unhappy with ubisoft and that you do care about us. I guess the best way to get a hold of you on msn is to email you, since we are both in different time zones. I wasn't expecting you to share your experiences with ubisoft and I thought you were going to support them right away as anyone else would do. Well it was nice talking to you and I will definitely see you on msn.
p.s. I am looking forward to hearing your story
xBlackPearlx - Daniel
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First Message
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Seriously, just respond to my question, I am defending myself and appealing my ban. My post below clearly makes sense that i should not have been banned, because i didnt make any direct contact with Kleaneasy. The post at the bottom was made because I got banned and in this post I am making direct contact with her and I even posted her name. So you guys just keep deleting and banning, but its not getting very far. I do deserve to be unbanned, I want you to bring this up with other admins and i want you to show them this. They should end up agreing with me because there was no direct contact made. I want you to review this message again. This is just not right. I will fight this with UBISOFT and this is not fair. I am only sticking up for what the majority of us believe in and you are just trying to shut us up everytime. I have a question for you, how come you dont want them to see what we are doing? Are you afraid to lose your job? I mean you guys are the reason this is even happening.
I have every right to defend this too. Heres how:
- 1. I never made direct contact with you
- 2. Kleenex can be anyone
- 3. You assume I am talking about you
- 4. I have never mentioned your name in any of my posts
- 5. I could be talking about a box Kleenex
- 6. I made no direct insults to you
- 7. Ms. Kleenex could be made up
- 8. They could think Ms. Kleenex is you, I have no control over there minds.
- 9. You just proved to abuse your admin rights
- 10. Your a UK Forum Manager, You have no right to moniter what goes on in the U.S. Forums if your rights are posted under your name. Welcome to the United States, wheres your visa?
- 11. You have no right to shut this post down either because this is not a multiple account that was created after I was suspended, this is an account I have had way before the other.
If you do abuse your admin rights once again, I will continue to fight this and I will make sure I win.
Have a nice day!
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His Reply
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My Second Message
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Hi ******,
This is xBlackPearlx and I want you to know I recieved your message but I did not have time to respond because I was at work. I did however begin typing my message on my iphone and by the time I could send it, I was already banned. I want you to know that I am not a a coder and that this is the first comupter I have physically put together. I do not support or distrbute hacks in any way, considering the fact that I own a multi-gaming clan. The image you saw on my photobucket was an image of a virus program, no biggy. I have never used it against anyone and it was downloaded off the internet. I have no skill in coding and I have supported ubisoft for a long time now. I have bought so many games from you guys since I have played splinter cell. I am planning on becomming a pilot in the USAF and I had thoughts towards purchasing hawxs, but I no longer have that idea. I am a long time customer and I dont want you guys to lose me because someone else's thoughts and actions towards me and other users.
You do seem like a good guy, someone who listens to people. I am sorry you felt as if was attacking you with this PM, but i sent the same message to the other moderators. My intentions are not to attack you but to recieve some support for myself and my friend and the other ubisoft forum users. I was only here to support my long time friend XeiaieX. The position Ms. kleaneasy put him in is not fair. We have been trying to get a hold of somebody who listens and your the only person who has responded. I really appreciate that and none of the other moderators had the same courage as you. The other moderators just keep banning and closing topics. When we do send a message to them, they don't respond, they just ban us right away. This is prolly like my 4th account. Do Kazzo and Ms. Kleaneasy just have a habit of banning and shutting down topics? They seem like they just cant handle the heat people are giving off, they cant absorb it and they just make people release more heat and energy everytime. This just keeps escalating because of the way things have been handled. I dont think they are fit for their job at all. I dont think it was right that I was banned, I really have no account on hacking, coding or anything related to that stuff. You will be the only person recieving this message this time and I really hope you can consider unbanning me. The majority of the users on these boards are complaining about not recieving support and Kazzo and Ms. Kleaneasy just keep trying to silence them. They tried to silence me and XeiaieX. XeiaieX even sent a message to Ms. Kleaneasy when she clearly said,
"If anyone has any genuine desire to discuss this properly please PT me, anyone creating any further threads will find themselves subject to warning or suspension for spamming."
She didn't respond, she just banned him. I mean thats not the way ubisoft is supposed to handle customers. If you look at XeiaieX previous posts before he was banned, you can clearly see he is not here to promote or exploit hacks or cheats but to help other forum users with issues some of the moderators can't solve. I hope you read the topics more and look into them so you can get a good summary of whats going on. Since you are the only person who has responded, I am going to get XeiaieX to contact you and hopefully you can speak to the both of us. I really appreciate your time into reading this and reading and responding to my first message.
Thank You!
xBlackPearlx - Daniel
You can also reach me at:
Xfire:xxblackpearlxx
MSN: xBlackPearlx@live.com
xBlackPearlx@noonesurvives.net
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His Reply
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Hello Black Pearl,
Thank you for your civil response. Now we can talk like men.
First of all, about the virus program, I wasn't accusing you of anything. I have a few of those programs myself that I like to experiment with. I was just saying, you might want to be careful putting that publicly on photobucket for all to see.
Second, you should know that I do not officially work for Ubisoft. I am a volunteer. A customer, just as you are.
Now, as you may or may not know, I am no fan of Ubisoft's support and actions. Myself, I pledged not to purchase a single Ubisoft product until a proper Rainbow Six is made. Since the release of Lockdown, I have held to that pledge. I have not put a penny of my money into Ubisoft for over 5 years. I feel your pain. I know that Ubisoft is ignoring us. I know that Ubisoft has turned into a game factory that is only interested in the profit rather than the consumer. I am a man of the people. My moderatorship has been extremely controversial among the staff because of my point of view. I do not censor opinions like some moderators on other forums may do. They see anything anti-ubisoft as trolling or flaming. I do not. I see it as an opinion. As long as that opinion is presented in a civil way, I see nothing wrong with it.
Now, with you two, I don't know why XeiaieX was originally banned. Apparently he had multiple accounts. As I said in my previous post, if you get banned on one account, technically you are banned totally from the forum under any and all accounts. What I saw the other night i was not pleased with. All I saw was spamming and insults and childishness. If you want to express your opinion, that is not the way to go about it.
Believe me, I know the point that you are trying to convey, and it is a very valid point. But you have to consider they way that you convey that message. If you spam and spam and post slander, then no one will take you seriously and the moderators will be forced to remove your opinion. The content that you two posted did in fact break the TOU which forces me to take action against you, even though I feel the very same pain that you guys are feeling. That's why I tried to get you to talk to me over MSN last night, because I really wanted you guys to hear my side of the story.
I have come to know many people in your same position. There have been many anti-ubisoft movements just like the one you started with your website. One of the most successful movement actually consisted of a large amount of people all filing complaints with the BBB in order to force Ubisoft into paying attention to them.
So with all of that said, I hope that you two will stop the spamming for at least the time being. That will help me work things out with my bosses. I cannot guarantee that you two will be unbanned. But if we talk more and come to an agreement, it will greatly improve your odds that I can work something out with kleaneasy and kazzoo. I have added you to MSN messenger. I look forward to talking with you two more and I hope that we can come to a civil agreement that can benefit us all. Thanks,
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My Reply
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Hi ******,
Once again, I really appreciate your quick responses and I do look forward to talking to you on msn. I hope you also decide to join the discussion on our website. If you have to ban me, I understand. You have to do what you have to do. I'm glad you to know that your not the only one who is unhappy with ubisoft and that you do care about us. I guess the best way to get a hold of you on msn is to email you, since we are both in different time zones. I wasn't expecting you to share your experiences with ubisoft and I thought you were going to support them right away as anyone else would do. Well it was nice talking to you and I will definitely see you on msn.
p.s. I am looking forward to hearing your story
xBlackPearlx - Daniel
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